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Google’s Former CEO Is Dancing in Ukraine

Earlier this year journalist Ben Makuch caught a glimpse of Eric Schmidt, the former CEO of Google, dancing at a club in Kyiv. It was a surreal moment, a snapshot of a tragic war that the West thinks is defining the future of conflict. Tech executives have flocked to Ukraine, courting the country in an attempt to get at a resource more precious than gold: data. Makuch was just there and has written about what he saw for The New Republic and he’s on the show today to talk about it.

  • Some light smoking banter

  • Ben’s timeline

  • Google’s CEO dancing in a bar in Kyiv

  • Ukraine as laboratory for war tech

  • The JSOC era is over

  • In defense of the majestic American turkey

  • The great America vs China speculation

  • War, cheaper

  • On the actual frontline

  • Wheat fields of fiber optic line

  • The buzz of the drone

  • Life in the bloodlands

  • The human suffering of living in Ukraine

  • FPV-made propaganda

  • “Never underestimate human innovation when it comes to killing other humans.”

  • What’s Erik Prince doing in Ukraine?

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